{"id":82077,"date":"2020-12-08T12:16:00","date_gmt":"2020-12-08T12:16:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/reallifelanguageblog\/?p=82077"},"modified":"2020-11-23T21:15:15","modified_gmt":"2020-11-23T21:15:15","slug":"podcast-for-spanish-learner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/reallifelanguageblog\/2020\/12\/08\/podcast-for-spanish-learner\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast for Spanish Learner: Episode 13"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/reallifelanguageblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/Copy-of-Basic-French-33.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-94116\" src=\"https:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/reallifelanguageblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/Copy-of-Basic-French-33-683x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Podcast for Spanish Learner: Episode 13\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/reallifelanguageblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/Copy-of-Basic-French-33-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/reallifelanguageblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/Copy-of-Basic-French-33-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/reallifelanguageblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/Copy-of-Basic-French-33.jpg 735w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/welcome-bienvenue-bienvenidos-bemvindo\/\">Transcripts, Questions and Keys<\/a><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Podcast for Spanish Learner: Episode 13<\/h2>\n\n\n<p>Welcome to <em>Themes for Advanced Learners of Spanish <\/em>by Real Life Language. In this series, you will meet native speakers of Spanish from all over the world. Listen to the podcast for Spanish learner about the education system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-episode-13-el-sistema-educativo\">Episode 13: el sistema educativo&nbsp;<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p>Porque el biling\u00fcismo ahora, que es una\u2026 un\u2026una\u2026 una medida que&nbsp; cuando la aceptaron y empezaron a promoverla, le dieron\u2026 le dieron&nbsp; mucha importancias\u2026 importancia, sali\u00f3 mucho en los medios de&nbsp; comunicaci\u00f3n\u2026 Pero creo que no\u2026 que no funciona de la forma que tendr\u00eda que funcionar, porque si t\u00fa das unos contenidos de ciencias sociales en&nbsp; ingl\u00e9s sin que el ni\u00f1o tenga una base de ingl\u00e9s y el profesor no sea biling\u00fce&nbsp; o tenga un nivel muy elevado de ingl\u00e9s, no\u2026 no puede funcionar de&nbsp; ninguna de las maneras. Entonces, ni funciona el aprendizaje del ingl\u00e9s al&nbsp; nivel al que quieren llegar, ni funciona el aprendizaje de los conocimientos&nbsp; de ciencias sociales. Porque tampoco pueden profundizar, es un\u2026 es un\u2026&nbsp; son conocimientos mucho m\u00e1s <em>light<\/em>, mucho m\u00e1s superficiales. Con lo cual&nbsp; creo que no\u2026 que no estamos llegando al punto donde se deber\u00eda de llegar con una educaci\u00f3n biling\u00fce, creo que es todo demasiado, demasiado&nbsp; <em>light<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A-S\u00ed. Ah\u2026 \u00bfC\u00f3mo podr\u00eda ser mejor\u2026 ah\u2026 el sistema educativo aqu\u00ed, en&nbsp; tu opini\u00f3n? \u00bfQu\u00e9 se podr\u00eda mejorar?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P- Es que ahora se podr\u00edan mejorar muchas cosas, porque\u2026eh\u2026 como&nbsp; sabes, ahora con\u2026 con la crisis han recortado mucho en educaci\u00f3n.&nbsp; Entonces el problema es que estamos volviendo hacia atr\u00e1s, la educaci\u00f3n&nbsp; ha empeorado ahora, y va a empeorar, igual que la salud, o sea, la sanidad&nbsp; p\u00fablica quiero decir. Y ahora hemos vuelto, por ejemplo, a tener m\u00e1s de 25 ni\u00f1os por clase, y el presupuesto que se dedica a educaci\u00f3n no es&nbsp; suficiente, es bastante\u2026 bastante inferior al que se necesitar\u00eda. Con lo cual&nbsp; ni puedes\u2026 ni puedes contratar profesores, ni puedes tener los medios que se necesitan en una escuela, ni\u2026 ni puedes empezar proyectos \u00bfno?\u2026&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A-S\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P-&#8230; con ese presupuesto, entonces ahora s\u00ed, claro, habr\u00eda que mejorar&nbsp; cosas muy b\u00e1sicas.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A-\u00bfY ves una conexi\u00f3n entre la educaci\u00f3n y el desempleo y la situaci\u00f3n&nbsp; actual? \u00bfVes algo\u2026 alg\u00fan\u2026 alguna causa y efecto\u2026?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P-Bueno, yo\u2026 ahora no lo s\u00e9 tanto, pero en lo que sucedi\u00f3 en los\u2026 en\u2026&nbsp; hace unos a\u00f1os, es que a causa de la construcci\u00f3n, por ejemplo, lo que se&nbsp; fomentaba\u2026 Por ejemplo, yo, de mi instituto, de todos los\u2026 de todos los&nbsp; compa\u00f1eros que empezamos el instituto terminamos bachillerato creo que un 10% s\u00f3lo, de todos los que empezamos en primero de la ESO, que es&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>con trece a\u00f1os. Muchos abandonaron los estudios antes para ir a trabajar&nbsp; a la construcci\u00f3n y realmente no\u2026 en ese momento no era una decisi\u00f3n tan&nbsp; descabellada. Lo pod\u00edan hacer. Iban a trabajar, ten\u00edan trabajo y ganaban\u2026&nbsp; ganaban bastante. Posiblemente hayan ganado mucho m\u00e1s de lo que yo voy a ganar teniendo una licenciatura o un m\u00e1ster, un posgrado o lo&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>que sea. Entonces, era\u2026 era una salida viable y que\u2026 y que la gente&nbsp; aceptaba con naturalidad. Entonces, lo que\u2026 lo que se ha fomentado mucho&nbsp; es el trabajo \u00e9ste de mano de obra \u00bfno? Y pod\u00edan vivir bien, y claro, muchos&nbsp; compa\u00f1eros \u00bfno? con quince a\u00f1os, diecis\u00e9is a\u00f1os, dec\u00edan \u201c\u00bfPara qu\u00e9 voy a&nbsp; estudiar si voy a ganar mucho m\u00e1s trabajando en la construcci\u00f3n?\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A-S\u00ed.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P-Entonces, en ese \u2026 en\u2026en \u2026 en ese momento pues, bueno, es lo que&nbsp; te digo, no era\u2026 no era una decisi\u00f3n tan\u2026 tan inviable \u00bfno? Pero claro, \u00bfcu\u00e1l es el resultado ahora? Ahora no hay trabajo, y no hay trabajo&nbsp; para gente que no tiene ning\u00fan tipo de formaci\u00f3n\u2026&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A-S\u00ed.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P-\u2026 con lo cual hay\u2026 hay un\u2026 un n\u00famero bastante elevado de\u2026 de\u2026&nbsp; de personas adultas, ahora, que anteriormente han ganado mucho dinero&nbsp; y con lo cual han generado muchos gastos, en su vida me refiero. O sea,&nbsp; tienen un\u2026 tienen\u2026 Posiblemente la mayor\u00eda tenga<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>un coche, tenga un piso y tenga\u2026 tenga muchos gastos y ahora no los&nbsp; puede mantener. Entonces en ese caso s\u00ed\u2026&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A-S\u00ed&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P-\u2026yo creo que antes s\u00ed que hab\u00eda una\u2026s\u00ed, una conexi\u00f3n entre el&nbsp; modelo de educaci\u00f3n que ten\u00edamos y el\u2026 y ahora el desempleo, en ese&nbsp; factor s\u00ed\u2026 o sea, en ese momento es que yo lo veo, pero ahora no lo s\u00e9.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 dice Laura sobre educaci\u00f3n biling\u00fce en Espa\u00f1a?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 necesita en profesor biling\u00fce bueno?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Seg\u00fan Laura, \u00bfc\u00f3mo podr\u00eda ser mejor el sistema educativo en Espa\u00f1a? \u00bfQu\u00e9 porcentaje de los compa\u00f1eros de Laura terminaron el bachillerato? \u00bfPor qu\u00e9 abandonaron muchos sus estudios?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 es el resultado ahora de tantos haber abandonado sus estudios?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-clave\"><strong>clave&nbsp;<\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 dice Laura sobre educaci\u00f3n biling\u00fce en Espa\u00f1a? <strong>Dice que le dieron mucha&nbsp; importancia, pero no funcion\u00f3 como tendr\u00eda que funcionar.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 necesita en profesor biling\u00fce bueno? <strong>Hablar bien el ingl\u00e9s.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Seg\u00fan Laura, \u00bfc\u00f3mo podr\u00eda ser mejor el sistema educativo en Espa\u00f1a? <strong>Clases con menos&nbsp; estudiantes y un presupuesto m\u00e1sgrande.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 porcentaje de los compa\u00f1eros de Laura terminaron el bachillerato? <strong>El 10 por ciento.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00bfPor qu\u00e9 abandonaron muchos sus estudios? <strong>Para trabajar en el sector de la construcci\u00f3n.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 es el resultado ahora de tantos haber abandonado sus estudios? <strong>Hay mucha gente sin formaci\u00f3n ni trabajo.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Get the accompanying book with transcripts, questions and answers:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/reallifelanguage.lpages.co\/themes-for-advanced-speakers-of-spanish\/\">https:\/\/reallifelanguage.lpages.co\/themes-for-advanced-speakers-of-spanish\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_9615\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-82077-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/content.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/elsistemaeducativo.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/content.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/elsistemaeducativo.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/content.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/elsistemaeducativo.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/content.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/elsistemaeducativo.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/reallifelanguageblog\/?powerpress_pinw=82077-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/content.blubrry.com\/real_life_language\/elsistemaeducativo.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"elsistemaeducativo.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/reallifelanguage.com\/reallifelanguageblog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Transcripts, Questions and Keys Podcast for Spanish Learner: Episode 13 Welcome to Themes for Advanced Learners of Spanish by Real Life Language. 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